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tierabetts
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 04:58 pm |
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I am brand new to milling my wheat and making my bread. Thus far, I've been using a bread machine (Breadman) to kneed the dough and then I will shape into loaves and cook in the oven. My question is this, when I am shaping the loaves, the dough breaks and I can't get it fully smooth. The bread has turned out okay, but the top is just not smooth all over. Is there a better way to knead the dough (breadmaker, blender (kitchenaid), or by hand?
Also, while I'm at it, is there a good way to make the loaves a little lighter? I used the simple honey wheat recipe and it's great for toast, but I think it would be a little to "heavy" for sandwhiches.
Thank you so much in advance for all your help!
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KSherrill
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:42 am |
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tierabetts
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:21 pm |
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Thanks for getting back with me so quick. I am using the red cookbook. Here is the cycle for the Breadman:
Knead 1: 5 min
Knead 2: 15 min
Rise 1: 50 min
Punch: 10 min
Rise 2: 25 min
Shape: 10 min
Rise 3: 45 min
At that point, I am taking it out and trying to shape it to place into loaf pans and let it rise again for about 30 min.
Usually I need about the same amount of wheatberries to make the amount of freshly milled wheat. Ex. cup for cup
Thanks for your help!
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KSherrill
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:05 am |
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So it kneads about 20 minutes, then rises four separate times? Is that right?
That sounds over-kneaded and over-risen to me. I use a bread machine too, so maybe it will help if I tell you my process:
Bread machine (Zojirushi):
Knead/rest:20 min.
Rise 1: 40-60 minutes
Take out, shape into loaves, place in oven.
Rise 2: 50 minutes
Bake:22-24 minutes @ 350
So I only have 2 rises, and the kneading in the machine is broken up by periods of rest. See if your bread machine has a quick dough cycle. My quick dough cycle is 45 minutes long, then I let it sit in the machine for 30 more minutes or so to rise. But there are only 2 rises total.
I didn't quite understand what you meant by "Usually I need about the same amount of wheatberries to make the amount of freshly milled wheat. Ex. cup for cup."
Did you mean that you put in a cup of grain and it yeilds a cup of flour? Normally, a cup of grain will yeild 1 1/2 cups of flour. Soft wheat will yeild even more flour per cup of grain. I'm just wondering if you have too much flour in your recipe. Too much flour will make heavy, dry loaves. I never put in more than 4 1/2 cups for two loaves.
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